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 Subject :Re:Let's MESH around on January 21, 2012.. 2012-01-17- 04:23:53 
KV4I
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Location: New Smyrna Beach, FL
Forum : Volusia County FL
Topic : Let's MESH around on January 21, 2012

Frank, I posted a response to your D-RATS question in this forum at http://hsmm-mesh.org/index.php?option=com_ccboard&view=postlist&forum=15&topic=122&Itemid=67 It seems we'll likely have more discussion on this so I posted it as a new topic. Thanks, Mark KV4I
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 Subject :D-RATS Integration.. 2012-01-17- 04:20:30 
KV4I
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Topic : D-RATS Integration

I've been asked about HSMM-MESH and D-RATS integration.


One nice thing about D-RATS software is that it can communicate over D-STAR RF, Analog RF via a TNC and an Internet connection all at the same time.


To illustrate what I think may be a full exploitation of these attributes, I've prepared the accompanying graphic.


We've already been successful in sending an email to an Internet recipient over RF on D-RATS to a second D-RATS station that has an Internet connection.


It seems to me that an HSMM-MESH user running D-RATS should be able to communicate with an RF connected D-STAR user via a mutually available RATFlector. I'm hoping to run some tests to see if this is a practical application.


Mark KV4I


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 Subject :Re:Helena, Mt. Mesh.. 2012-01-17- 04:17:36 
K7MT
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Topic : Helena, Mt. Mesh

GM from Montana,

Logged into K7MT-101 and linked to K7MT-100  localnode:8080.  Link is good and will now take a look at setting up the server on my APRS BPQ32 Computer.

First goal is to set up a port for BPQ32 Switch so Ican access the program remotely then go to the BBS, WWW Chat, RMS Packet, local packet, and Winlink.

The adventure begins.

Bill K7MT

http://www.k7mt.com

Enjoy life! It does have an expiration date!

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APRS IGATE, BPQ32 Node with 1200 baud packet and SCS Pactor III for EMCOM. I enjoy amateur satellites. I do wild Land Fire communications in the summer and ski all winter. Retired USN and State of Montana. Spent two season at McMurdo Station Antarctica and reactivated KC4USV.
 Subject :Helena, Mt. Mesh.. 2012-01-16- 16:12:00 
K7MT
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Topic : Helena, Mt. Mesh

Howdy gang,

K7MT in Helena, Mt.  I received two nodes all set up with my call K7MT-100 and K7MT-101 thanks to Clayton.  I plugged them in and they appear to see each other but how do I set up my lap top to access the Linksys Router using the Web Browser IE 8 ?  Then I need to get access to the Ham Shack Linksys router plugged into my Net Gear Router...

I have one node on ether net to my portable laptop and the second node hooked via ether net to my Net Gear Router in my Ham Shack.  The Net Gear is link to 5.7GHZ internet Link to my IP and my other Lap top containing APRS Plus SA, Wx Station, BPQ32 Switch with BBS, Chat, and RMS Packet to Winlink.  It also controlls my ICOM 706MKIIG and SCS Pactor III HF Link for EMCOM.

My goal is to get these two working and set up access to my Ham Shack Computer for Internet access and Winlink via the Icom 706 for EMCOM. Once this is accomplished, there are plans to expand the MESH around the Valley for EMCOM..

I am looking forward to the adventure and learning from everyone.

Thanks  Bill K7MT

http://www.k7mt.com

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APRS IGATE, BPQ32 Node with 1200 baud packet and SCS Pactor III for EMCOM. I enjoy amateur satellites. I do wild Land Fire communications in the summer and ski all winter. Retired USN and State of Montana. Spent two season at McMurdo Station Antarctica and reactivated KC4USV.
 Subject :Re:Let's MESH around on January 21, 2012.. 2012-01-16- 13:00:52 
KV4I
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Topic : Let's MESH around on January 21, 2012

Hi, Frank, For the demo\test, we're using a closed network set up just for the demo. Ordinarily, only HSMM-MESH devices can connect to an HSMM-MESH node but for demo purposes, I'm hooking a open WiFi WAP to our 2 node test network. If your device can do WiFi with a browser, you can connect via one MESH node to a second one running a web browser. D-RATS software will run on the MESH and I'll also have a D-RATS Ratflector running on the demo MESH network. Looking forward to seeing you there and I'll bring your membership badge. 73 Mark KV4I
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 Subject :Re:Let's MESH around on January 21, 2012.. 2012-01-16- 06:35:23 
Kb4t
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Topic : Let's MESH around on January 21, 2012

Any WiFi device? How about smartphones? Is there any security to keep non-hams out? Saturday's VolARES should be interesting between the HHMM-MESH demo and D-Star workshop. One wonders if there will be a connection between the D-Star system and the mesh net with D-RATS as the intermediary. I'll have a few questions to ask Saturday. 73, Frank KB4T
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 Subject :Re:SSID's on mesh nodes.. 2012-01-15- 18:29:52 
ae5ae
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Topic : SSID's on mesh nodes

Be careful, the usual SSID for a mesh node is HSMM-MESH. If you do something different, like change the channel, run encryption, etc. it's requested that you change the SSID for your mesh so that others that run the default settings won't enter your mesh. It's been recommended that the SSID be changed by appending something like your callsign or your name ; just so your mesh can be identified as being different. WiFi SSIDs can be upto 32-characters long. Node names, on the other hand, can be pretty much anything and can use the old packet usage of SSID (Secondary Station ID) in the naming of the nodes. Many usually do something simple like "callsign-###", "callsign-AP#, or "callsign-Node#". Since my mesh nodes are scattered in the house I've done "callsign-room" like "ae5ae-kitchen", "ae5ae-garage", "ae5ae-attic" and the like. -Rusty-
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 Subject :Let's MESH around on January 21, 2012.. 2012-01-15- 13:08:41 
KV4I
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Topic : Let's MESH around on January 21, 2012

On January 21, Volusia ARES will hold its monthly meeting at 3:00 p.m. at the Tiger Bay Fire Training Center.  The Central Florida D-Star Group will hold a workshop on D-Star Radio Communications.  The presentation on D-Star radio, DVAP, Dongle and D-RATS programming will be followed by separate sessions for Q & A and hands-on assistance to any ham needing help with their D-Star hardware. All hams are invited to attend.  For more information, please see the attached document.JAN-21-AGENDA http://volusiaares.org/

One hour prior to the meeting at 2:00, we're going to play around with HSMM-MESH nodes. We'll be playing with two HSMM-MESH nodes running with a webserver, a D-RATS Ratflector and FocusPhone P2P video chat.

All are welcome. Bring any WiFi capable device and you can play on the test MESH.

Volusia County Fire Training Center. 3889 Tiger Bay Rd., Daytona Beach, FL 32124

Talk in is 147.240 T123. Everyone is welcome to attend.

Mark KV4I


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 Subject :Re:Re:Welcome.. 2012-01-15- 03:17:11 
KV4I
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Topic : Welcome

Thanks for the information about an Orlando MESH. I visited the links but it doesn't appear to be the HSMM-MESH variety of MESH and I couldn't find any Ham call signs associated with the project.

Is it an HSMM-MESH mesh? Do you know of any Ham radio operators involved in the project?

Thanks,

Mark KV4I




[KNEL 2012-01-14- 21:11:22]:

Hello, You may also want to link up with http://www.orlmesh.com/wiki/Main_Page . They formed based off of the efforts underway at http://www.reddit.com/r/darknetplan/

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 Subject :Re:Welcome.. 2012-01-14- 21:11:22 
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Hello, You may also want to link up with http://www.orlmesh.com/wiki/Main_Page . They formed based off of the efforts underway at http://www.reddit.com/r/darknetplan/
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 Subject :Re:PoE any good or bad thoughts?.. 2012-01-14- 20:56:37 
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Topic : PoE any good or bad thoughts?

Check out packetflux.com for a DC power system that can drive ubiquiti gear. Pretty cool stuff.
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 Subject :Re:Portable VOIP server.. 2012-01-14- 00:14:57 
AL4S
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Forum : VoIP
Topic : Portable VOIP server

Try a Linksys NSLU2, aka SLUG.

http://www.nslu2-linux.org/


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 Subject :Re:CAT5 cables from ground to top of tower.. 2012-01-13- 11:54:14 
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Topic : CAT5 cables from ground to top of tower

Check out the attached list of cable and install suggestions.

-Glenn

KD5MFW

For outdoor installations consider using the following modules / types of equipment: Antenna, with in line lightning protection. Example PolyPhaser LSXL-ME in -Line EM surge filter. If you use two antennas two feed lines, you could use two of these filters. A reality check is that the filters will cost more than the router used to make the mesh node. You may decide to simply keep a spare mesh node on hand. The CAT-5 type cable from the radio box at the top of the tower should have an outdoor “UV” rated sheath. You will probably benefit from having this cable be shielded as well. Normal CAT-5 type cable is not intended for outdoor use and the Ultraviolet rays of the sun will decay the plastic sheath quickly if it is not designed for outdoor use. Often this cable is “gel” filled to keep water out. This is good once installed, but is a mess to terminate with connectors as the gel gets on everything. Seal everything up with some sort of “coax sealer tape”. Check fab-corp.com and titanwireless.com for weatherproofing products. They also stock special feed through connectors for CAT-5 type cables to get them out of your weatherproof box. Consider having a second “quick connect” box below your main mesh node box. There are many ways to do this but the idea is to have things set up where a tower climber can open the quick cable disconnect box and easily get the mesh node weatherproof enclosure free to swap out. Without such an interface box, a tower climber will spend hours reworking the weatherproof cable entries into the mesh node weatherproof enclosure. Do it! Save your tower climbers time! Less time on the tower is safer! Now you are down to were you come into the building. At this point you will want to put in line with the CAT-5 type cables, a module to try to shunt over voltage (lightning) to ground before you enter the building. Example device: PolyPhaser NX2-05. This is uses a RJ-45 female for in and out and has a ground strap to go to a good ground. The PolyPhaser devices are good. The Austin developers use them. Note there are similar looking devices that claim to be some sort of surge blocker and are near useless. Use the good stuff. Do not be “the guys that brought lightning into the radio room” via your cables. Titanwireless.com and fab-corp.com have may useful modules and supplies for doing outdoor installs. When looking through catalogs, look at the Wireless Internet Service Supplier (WISP) type supplies. These folks do outdoor Wi-Fi type stuff so this is where the outdoor supplies are to be found in catalogs and in Internet searches. -Glenn KD5MFW

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 Subject :Re:.. 2012-01-13- 11:31:19 
K4RJJ
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Topic : "Slide Band" Mesh Node VFO

Are these boards still available? I'm curious if it is "cleaner" down in the off Part 15 channels in my area.
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 Subject :CAT5 cables from ground to top of tower.. 2012-01-13- 11:11:10 
K4RJJ
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Location: Dallas GA
Forum : Hardware
Topic : CAT5 cables from ground to top of tower

The goal I have is to place the router in waterproof box inside the top of a ROHN 25G tower.  What considerations have others taken in selection of CAT5 cable and weatherproofing it?

I have two CAT 5e cables now.  One for the WAN and one for the LAN ports.  I plan to use PoE cables to route power on and off the unused pairs.  is this a good way to do this and what are the best ways to weatherproof the cables?

Thanks!

Ronny

K4RJJ

 

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 Subject :Re:SSID's on mesh nodes.. 2012-01-12- 17:16:46 
K5KTF
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Topic : SSID's on mesh nodes

Great! I hope you guys get alot working. As one great guy here in Austin always says, "Few will help build the rails, but once the tracks are laid, everyone will want to jump on and ride". When you get me LatLon, I prefer XX.XXXXXXX format, as that plugs straight into the flat-file. If I get XX* XX' XX" or XX* XX.XXX, then I have to convert. Im hoping I will have a form up soon that people can plug in themselves and it will add to it. 73 and GL! KTF
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 Subject :Re:SSID's on mesh nodes.. 2012-01-12- 16:26:32 
KD4MZM
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Location: Sarasota, Florida
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Topic : SSID's on mesh nodes

Hi Jim, Thanks for the information. I've been playing with this for about a year or so but gave up as it was just my brother (KD4UBZ) and I. Now, it seems to have gotten some legs in this area and is starting to grow (I hope). It's been the topic on the nets from two different clubs. So, I dug out the ol' setup and getting back into it. Like I said in the other post, we have about 10 hams that want to play right now. I'm sure if those of us on the ground floor build a basic starting system here others will follow suit. I've advised all of them to come here and register so we can maybe in the future have our own area topic section once we get this HSMM-Mesh ball rolling here. As for the -100 SSID on the nodes, that looks like a good start for me to work with. I ran a full service multi port BBS back in the day and the SSID's was a big part of setting up the BBS and gateways and such. Anyway. I'll keep all informed here as the system gets going. I'll also get the GPS numbers for you from each user that sets up a node so you can map that. Thanks for the help. 73's de Eric...KD4MZM...
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 Subject :Linksys WRT160N Ver.3.. 2012-01-12- 08:37:37 
KD4MZM
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Location: Sarasota, Florida
Forum : Hardware
Topic : Linksys WRT160N Ver.3

Hello All,


Just was given a working Linksys WRT160n version 3 wireless router. I see on the software download area that there is a WRT150 listed but not the WRT160, anyone tried using the WRT160 in the HSMM-Mesh system? The serial numder is CSE41J if that helps at all.

Anyway, like I say it was just given to me from an upgraded system. Thought I'd give it a try and see what happens.


73's de Eric...KD4MZM...

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 Subject :Re:SSID's on mesh nodes.. 2012-01-12- 02:15:54 
K5KTF
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Topic : SSID's on mesh nodes

I dont think anyone has standardized anything along that route yet. I started mine at -100 because -5 is my packet digi, -9 my truck -10 my RMS station, and I figured since this was going to bbe an order of magnitude higher in freq, to start at -100. But I have also been using words, like my -50foot up my 50 foot pushup pole, -USB for my USB modded node. Really, its anything goes. WWhatever makes life easier I guess. Y'all are welcome to come up with your own standards if you like. 10 guys ready to deploy? WOW! GREAT! Send me the lat/lons and node names and Ill add them to http://hsmm-mesh.org/googlemapped-mesh-nodes.html (I know.. I have been nagging as bad as my wife to get locations for the map... sorry :-) ) 73 and good luck ! Jim K5KTF
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 Subject :SSID's on mesh nodes.. 2012-01-11- 16:53:35 
KD4MZM
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Location: Sarasota, Florida
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Topic : SSID's on mesh nodes

Hello All,

Just wondering if there is any standard format for SSID's on the HSMM-Mesh node's? I remember back in the packet radio days we would assign certain -#'s to your call based on what it was for. I see on some of the pages that some user's are setting up as a -100 or some are just using a call. Looking for ideas or comments on this. I ask because at this time I've got about 10 users getting ready to setup their nodes here in the Sarasota Florida area and we would just like to be uniform somewhat in the ways others are programming their SSID's.


Thanks in advance for you input,

73's de Eric...KD4MZM...

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