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 Subject :Re:ssh into node??.. 2016-01-20- 06:25:40 
ve6edf
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Topic : ssh into node??

using the instruction above but i get connection refused
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 Subject :Re:ESP8266 and BBHN/HamNET.. 2016-01-19- 10:41:58 
NG5V
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Topic : ESP8266 and BBHN/HamNET

To avoid paragraphs being crunched, click "post reply" rather than typing inside the quick reply box.

This also gives you a preview button to see what it will look like before you click submit. Be sure and click only one time, giving time for the server to handle your request.

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 Subject :Re:How do I load the BBHN 3.1 software on a Raspberry Pi?.. 2016-01-19- 10:30:03 
NG5V
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Topic : How do I load the BBHN 3.1 software on a Raspberry Pi?

With regard to a specific build of any HSMM-MESH or Broadband-Hamnet firmware for Raspberry Pi, Pi 2 or Beaglebone black, No version has ever been released.

Talented users have taken each operating system, added the OLSR features and the DNS processes, and done one-off conversions of each of these models. It appears that plenty of horsepower exists even in the Pi Zero to do the same thing.

We don't advocate the Pi or Beaglebone directly serving as a node for several reasons. First, it is not water tight and would need to be in contact with a USB or Ethernet connected access point located high enough to be useful. This presents some problems as you would normally like to have a really strong signal on the node that serves your BeagleBone, PI, etc. such that hop count to that node is very low.

Second, If your mini computer lives up to its abilities, you will be serving up web pages, possibly hosting a file/FTP store, APRS and, running Asterisk and possibly one or more chat server programs. Others add Tickets CAD and locally stored Open Streetmaps to the mix to manage your deployed resources. As you stack more tasks on to the quite capable mini computer, you take away cycles from near real time tasks like Asterisk, decreasing the concurrent call count that can be handled with quality audio.

In addition, 5v power over Ethernet (POE) is even less standard than the 12v used in many setups. It does not port well over a distance due to 5v needing to be not more or less than 5v. Other power is 12v or higher for the Ubiquiti and IP phones, so starting over with voltage doesn't hurt you on short runs and still works fine as the length of your CAT5 grows. It is quite easy to have a solid 5v power source for the Pi/Bone at your operating position and leave the higher power/better antenna job to a POE connected Ubiquity mounted above your head. With native water sealing and POE already handled, it's a snap. Such a host, acting as a mesh node with direct LAN addressing and hard wired to the Pi/Bone and will get premium service to each user.

Nothing here says you CAN'T make the Pi/Bone your mesh node, but why fight all of the above factors just to do it?

Restating the current situation: Broadband-Hamnet does not offer any builds of firmware now or in the past that directly convert any model of Beaglebone or Raspberry Pi to BBHN operation. Users are free to whip up one and share the recipe with others. Our recommendation is to have a dedicated mesh node hard wired to the mini computer over CAT5 cable and give it a solid 5v supply in an area where weather protection is not an issue.

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 Subject :How do I load the BBHN 3.1 software on a Raspberry Pi?.. 2016-01-19- 08:13:05 
WA5DJJ
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Topic : How do I load the BBHN 3.1 software on a Raspberry Pi?

Dear Members,

Way back in the version 1.0 days there was a way to load the BBHN 1.0 software on

a Raspberry Pi and use it as a BBHN Node...  Has that process expanded to version

3.1 and if so... Where do I find it???

The reason I want it is I want to build a mobile BBHN Node for my car... and I want to

be able to expand the BBHN in places where using a Raspberry Pi could be advantageous.

Any suggestions much appreciated.

73 Dave WA5DJJ

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 Subject :How do I load the BBHN 3.1 software on a Raspberry Pi?.. 2016-01-19- 08:13:05 
WA5DJJ
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Topic : How do I load the BBHN 3.1 software on a Raspberry Pi?

Dear Members,

Way back in the version 1.0 days there was a way to load the BBHN 1.0 software on

a Raspberry Pi and use it as a BBHN Node...  Has that process expanded to version

3.1 and if so... Where do I find it???

The reason I want it is I want to build a mobile BBHN Node for my car... and I want to

be able to expand the BBHN in places where using a Raspberry Pi could be advantageous.

Any suggestions much appreciated.

73 Dave WA5DJJ

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 Subject :How do I load the BBHN 3.1 software on a Raspberry Pi?.. 2016-01-19- 08:12:45 
WA5DJJ
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Topic : How do I load the BBHN 3.1 software on a Raspberry Pi?

Dear Members,

Way back in the version 1.0 days there was a way to load the BBHN 1.0 software on

a Raspberry Pi and use it as a BBHN Node...  Has that process expanded to version

3.1 and if so... Where do I find it???

The reason I want it is I want to build a mobile BBHN Node for my car... and I want to

be able to expand the BBHN in places where using a Raspberry Pi could be advantageous.

Any suggestions much appreciated.

73 Dave WA5DJJ

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 Subject :Re:Greetings!.. 2016-01-19- 00:52:03 
W0AIR
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Topic : Greetings!

Thanks for getting this discussion started, Robert.

For about two years I've had a node running in Berthoud.  Usually, I have a Team Talk 4 server connected, but the node is always on the air and everyone is welcome to connect.

73, Jay    W0AIR

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 Subject :Mesh Forum at NCARC Hamfest, Loveland, CO, January 23, 2016.. 2016-01-19- 00:46:23 
W0AIR
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Topic : Mesh Forum at NCARC Hamfest, Loveland, CO, January 23, 2016

We're having a BBHN Mesh discussion at the NCARC Hamfest in Loveland, CO on Saturday, January 23, 2016.  Forum runs from 10:00 to 11:00. 

Details:  http://ncarc.net/?q=node/290     or see menu at  http://ncarc.net

73, Jay W0AIR

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 Subject :Re:NanoStation M2 - is this the bootloader problem/aftermath.. 2016-01-17- 14:15:15 
N8NQH
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Topic : NanoStation M2 - is this the bootloader problem/aftermath

thank-you, I'll look into all of that. These two NanoStation M2's I purchased were used. I intentionally bought used - to try and avoind any XM XW problems; and any other compatibility issues we see on occasion with the newer Ubiquiti releases. I just found out the two used NS M2 device s I bought - the seller "wiped them" by uploading the latest Ubpquiti firmware into them; and it was 5.6 If he would of just left things as they were... :-)
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 Subject :Re:NanoStation M2 - is this the bootloader problem/aftermath.. 2016-01-17- 11:32:43 
KF5JIM
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Topic : NanoStation M2 - is this the bootloader problem/aftermath

That sounds much like a problem that another user experienced the other week.

We will for sure get you set on the right stock firmware first and then hopefully back on track:

  1. View videos: here and here
  2. Download your suitable TFTP client here.
  3. Download UBNT v5.5.x firmware here.
  4. Following the methods in the two videos (mileage may vary) and your TFTP client, and
  5. TFTP the stock UBNT firmware back to the NanoStation M2.
  6. Once fully booted and re-setup using stock firmware, try re-flashing the unit back to BBHN


Let me know if you have any questions and please let me know the outcome either way. And then, we will see how to proceed from there. Thanks!

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 Subject :NanoStation M2 - is this the bootloader problem/aftermath.. 2016-01-17- 11:04:05 
N8NQH
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Topic : NanoStation M2 - is this the bootloader problem/aftermath

I have 5 NanoStation M5's, all I did was make certain they were XM versions before purchasing.  Flashed with BBHN with no problems.

Decided to include the NS M2 to my equipment collection; did the same... verified it was "XM".  Sadly I didn't look to see what version of factory firmware was already installed; made the mistake of using my M5 experience - just looking that the firmware version started with XM.

I reflashed with the BBHN 3.1 for the NanoStation M2; it went through all right; and then got the "NoCall" page. But when attempting to   change the call or password... the Save function errors.  Also, cannot reload any other flash; get a message "file type  not recognized".


I then went back to the main NoCall page, and in the lower right corner noticed something strange:

screen-shot (look at the flash free space value):

http://www.tim-yvonne.com/ham/temp/BOOTLODR.JPG

does this point to being the announced bootloader problem ?

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 Subject :Re:ESP8266 and BBHN/HamNET.. 2016-01-15- 09:33:47 
KE7HIA
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Topic : ESP8266 and BBHN/HamNET

oh, the forum doesn't respect spaces between paragraphs? What if I do twice as many? I had an addition idea: Whenever the keychains are plugged in, they could switch to a more active mode where they spend most of their time broadcasting their presence to other keychains, so message passing could happen even without any BBHN nodes being involved. They would probably still want to switch to their normal mode periodically for message passing described above. And another thing: There is a successor to the ESP8266 coming out soon called the ESP32. I haven't memorized all the details, but one notable addition is BlueTooth Low Energy, which would make talking to phones a lot easier.... not that WiFi is hard.. anyway, BT could be used for configuration, etc..... That's all, thanks for listening!
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 Subject :Re:ESP8266 and BBHN/HamNET.. 2016-01-15- 09:20:37 
KE7HIA
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I've been working with the ESP8266 at work for some products we are developing. It's a pretty amazing chip for the price. It has an integrated microcontroller that can run user code, so it can be a nearly stand alone device. That said, it's slow and its got only a tiny amount of RAM and Flash compared to a router and will never, ever be able to run Linux like the routers do. On the other hand, its amazingly cheap, small, and power consumption is very low. While it isn't going to work as a full node, I think it could still serve some very interesting purposes. For example, a keychain style device that you could carry that would periodically search for BBHM nodes, connect to them, then log the time for you. Adding to that, and more interesting to me, would be the idea of a sort of sneaker-net relay system. This little keychain would look for nodes, connect, and if the node has any outgoing (very short!) messages, it would grab those. Then the next time it saw a different node, it would pass those messages along, while grabbing any new messages. It could be set up to step through any nodes it sees and repeat the process, so if you had one of these that could always see two nodes that could not see each other, it could pass small amounts of traffic between them. As Hams carried these things around, they would act as the conduit for this sorta slow packet traffic, if that makes sense. I don't know enough about how BBHN works to start something like this, and I'm too busy anyway (maybe someday). Though I could probably help a little. In particular, I am experienced at PCB design and manufacturing. (See PortableSDR.com for an example of my work) P.S. For a small cheap board that could run the full BBHN, check out the GS-Oolite boards. I've been able to get them for about $13/each: http://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?fsb=y&IndexArea=product_en&CatId=&SearchText=gs-oolite
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 Subject :Re:ESP8266.. 2016-01-15- 08:23:02 
KE7HIA
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It's been a while, but there is a more recent post over at http://www.broadband-hamnet.org/hsmm-mesh-forums/view-postlist/forum-2-hardware/topic-1641-esp8266-and-bbhnhamnet.html I'd love to get more discussion going, so I am going to continue my comments there.
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 Subject :Re:Raspberry Pi Mesh.. 2016-01-15- 04:20:59 
KD2EVR
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I had a concept for a something like a HAZMAT incident... You could create a bunch of nodes that consist of a RPi w/usb wifi adapter, webcam, lipoly "power bank" in a Tupperware box stuck on a simple tripod. Deploy a chain of these around the perimeter - range is not an issue. Could also work along a parade or marathon route.
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 Subject :Re:No storage on Bullet M2 HP.. 2016-01-14- 11:52:23 
ke5eua
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Topic : No storage on Bullet M2 HP

You are correct, I deleted my original text in the fist post. My biggest issue with the community of moderators is someone posted a reply, and I ended up corresponding via email with a dev member who gave me a suggestion to force the uboot to reflash. The pictures I apologize for, should have mentioned in the post you could just right click on them and open them in a new tab. I posted a reply with what I ended up doing and shortly later the mods deleted everything past my original post. When they did that I became aware of this and other actions they took against other members and that is what has made me decide to move from BBHN to AREDN.
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 Subject :Re:No storage on Bullet M2 HP.. 2016-01-14- 11:30:39 
KF5JIM
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Topic : No storage on Bullet M2 HP

Honestly, I am not aware of the reason why the whole post was removed (EDIT:  I should have read your edit more carefully. You removed your main post.  I thought your original post was deleted and you opened a new topic under the same name). However, from looking at my email log, one person said that your problem possibly stemmed from this: https://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/ubiquiti/airmaxm

Your pictures were hard to read on this forum, so I had to download them to figure out what you did (luckly I still had the pictures). What is came down to is that you serial consoled into the router, turned on TFTP via the serial console (details here (ubnt website). Summary: Type "urescue" at serial prompt), grabbed AirOS XM 5.5.11 from the ubnt website, put the router in TFTP mode and TFTP'd the firmware back to the UBNT device. And then after the node fully flashed back to the origional (and older) stock firmware you proceeded to install BBHN onto the node. Does that sound right?

So for archival purposes (should anyone else have the same problem and need to search for it): "I flashed a bullet m2 hp today with 3.1.0 and when I tried to setup the mesh node it kept giving me an error. I telnet into the device and find out there is no available space. Tried to put the m2 in tftp mode and can't even connect to it. Any advice?" -KE5EUA  (Edit:  Since you deleted your original post, let me know if you want this quote removed since you have full ownership of it.)

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 Subject :Re:Raspberry Pi Mesh.. 2016-01-13- 17:07:13 
KI6PVH
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Thanks
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 Subject :Re:Re:Raspberry Pi Mesh.. 2016-01-13- 16:39:54 
WB6TAE
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I think KG6JEI's earlier comment is still valid.  It is pretty hard to beat the price of a Ubiquiti PicoStation... (<$80) and there is "no assembly required." And, if you want a 60º sector with MIMO you absolutely cannot beat a 2.4 or 5gHz NanoStationM2/M5 at just $5 to $10 more. (Personally, I'd avoid the NanoStation loco unless range is not an issue.)

[KG6JEI 2015-02-03- 05:59:13]:  I suspect for in the wild nodes you will find Ubiquiti cheaper...


[KI6PVH 2016-01-13- 08:58:38]:

So is it looking more viable to use Raspberry PI as a serious emergnecy communications solution as nodes in a hamnet network? Cheap and reduced availability of the old routers makes it attractive to me.

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 Subject :Re:Raspberry Pi Mesh.. 2016-01-13- 08:58:38 
KI6PVH
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So is it looking more viable to use Raspberry PI as a serious emergnecy communications solution as nodes in a hamnet network? Cheap and reduced availability of the old routers makes it attractive to me.
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